The beauty of eve lies in its sandbox and how it allows people to define their own play style as well as decide on what their views and attitude will be towards other players (always in game terms that is).

Even though after witnessing wormhole life, none of us wants to go back to missioning we do respect each and everyone who likes to do so.. besides we’ve done our fair share of missioning (personally I did that for 3 years).

The same thing goes for miners, industrialists, carebears, pirates, mercs etc..

Now, the key difference between us and star defender is that Star Defender is essentially soloing life in w-space. If you don’t have 10 people to share your profit with, you can share a grav site with a random stranger and still make very good money. If however at the end of the month you gotta split the profit by 10, or 12 or 15, then every resource counts. And since we did go to great lengths and way beyond the play style we were used to as carebears, we do a get a bit “blood thirsty” when people enter, or even more operate in our back yard.

On the logistics side now, each gravimetric site requires a significant amount of time and coordinated effort to be mined dry. When a gravimetric site spawns as a signature on your scanner, it will stay up for about 5 days. If you fly in the site, the site is triggered and it will stay active for 3 days. We try to coordinate our mining efforts by not triggering the gravimetric sites available in our system, and arranging to do those when time permits. Your Hulk flying into one of those, triggered it bringing imbalance to our schedule. Pirates in low-sec kill for lesser reasons, if for any reason at all.

We do boast in our show that we grew from being carebears to being newbs. Our carebear days are over and we do examine other aspects of the game, some of them being more violent than others. Personally I hadn’t killed a single pilot during my first 3 years of the game. But now I do get excited when the opportunity for some PVP arises. And yeah, humping a lonesome Hulk might seem like griefing and cowardly, but you grow to do that when you’ve been on the “receiving end hulk” thrice so far =)

Finally, even if we blow each other’s ships to smithereens, behind the screens we’re just normal people with t-shirts and trousers. No eye-patches or peg legs or hooks and parrots =)

I do not understand you position of being pro-carebear and loving yanking people. Maybe once again I have a different defintion of the term carebear. I have played this game for almost 4 years I have about 10 deaths ( and 2 that were just plain halariously stupid) and 0 kills. I do stay in empire.

Now I completely agree with both you and Star defender that you need to have scan up to see what is happening.

But my main point is that you do not have to kill to play the game. There are 3 other real life freinds that have been on for a while with 0 kills … Well one is looking to 0.0 so I hope that changes. Errr. I digress a lot… Point is that a MMO does not equate to killing people with your mates. It can be exploring or mining ( yes some people enjoy it ). Or even mission running. Check out help my mission channel. I can help people without killing them. There is no true end game for MMOs. Eve has no “raid” / well ok you CAN raid very much into other territories. But there is epic Goonswarm/Kenzoku Boss that you can kill to disolve the alliance.

Now I agree that when 10+ battleships enter your wormhole space you have every right to defend yourself. I am very happy to hear TeaDaze helping you and your overcoming adversity. And if you were to reralitate and go after there POS that would make sense. But attacking a hulk just because does not seem to effect your economy. The sleeper sites seem to be more of an isk generator.

That said I want to be perfectly clear – I have 1% of 1% of your wormhole knowledge. So a hulk might be critical to you. I’m just going off of my limited class 2 knowledge

Second to last thought – you are right. There are much more blood thirsty people in the game. I do read all the blogs from capsuleer ( congratualtions for both of you btw). But I finally found a person in Star Defender that does talk first and ask shoot later. So I wanted to say that NBSI doesn’t have to bd the name of the game. You can make money and still get along with peope

and lastly. Planet Risk is a great show. I was little depressed this weekend not being able to listen to it. You guys are doing great

Acinom

Sorry I wasn't there to save you all in Geminate, I was out drinking.

I took Agony’s PvP Basics course and enjoyed it a ton. Fun group.

Why should you apologize for defending your colonized space? Don’t. Them’s the breaks for anyone who is foolish enough to be so oblivious. This is not a “sunshine, unicorns, and fairies” game.